I think that one thing that remains constant for me is that the system — the prison industrial complex — isn’t broken. The system of mass criminalization we have isn’t the result of failure. Thinking in this way allows me to look at what’s going on right now in a cleareyed way. I understand that white supremacy is maintained and reproduced through the criminal punishment apparatus. —Mariame Kaba, “Towards the Horizon of Abolition: A Conversation with Mariame Kaba,” interview

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詹姆斯鲍德温和反黑人法律力量

我认为对我来说保持不变的一件事是系统——监狱工业综合体——没有被破坏。我们拥有的大规模刑事定罪制度不是失败的结果。以这种方式思考使我能够以清晰的方式看待现在正在发生的事情。我理解白人至上是通过刑事处罚机制来维持和复制的。——Mariame Kaba，“走向废除的地平线：与 Mariame Kaba 的对话”，采访