The interview is a follow-up from Samantha Frost’s article, ‘The Attentive Body’ in Body & Society 26(4). Tomoko Tamari invites Frost to explore her interest in ‘biocultural creatures’, with its focus on ‘bodies’ responsive self-transformation’ in epigenetic processes, and unfolds Peirce’s account of the index for understanding meaning-making in biological processes. Tamari also introduces Katherine Hayles’s notion of ‘cognitive nonconscious’ to raise the question of the possible theoretical and mechanical similarities/discrepancies between epigenetic processes in organisms and the meaning-making process in computational systems. Drawing on Jacob von Uexkull’s notion of ‘umwelt’ and introducing Yoshimi Kawade’s remarks on a living being’s subjective orientation in environments, a further question about ‘intention’ and ‘subjectivity’ enables Frost to further unpack her notion of ‘the attentive self’ and discuss its relation to ‘intentionality’ and ‘referentiality’ in epigenetic processes. Finally, Samantha Frost mentions her current projects on the connection between ‘attention-as-responsive-self-transformation’ and ‘mode-of-living-as-form-of-live’.

本次采访是萨曼莎·弗罗斯特 (Samantha Frost) 在《身体与社会》( Body & Society) 中的文章“专注的身体”的后续报道26（4）。Tomoko Tamari 邀请 Frost 探索她对“生物文化生物”的兴趣，重点是表观遗传过程中的“身体”响应性自我转化，并展开 Peirce 对理解生物过程中意义制造指数的解释。Tamari 还介绍了 Katherine Hayles 的“认知无意识”概念，以提出生物体的表观遗传过程与计算系统中的意义制定过程之间可能存在的理论和机械相似性/差异的问题。借鉴 Jacob von Uexkull 的“环境世界”概念，并介绍 Yoshimi Kawade 关于生物在环境中的主观取向的评论，关于“意图”和“主观性”的进一步问题使弗罗斯特能够进一步解开她的“注意自我”的概念，并讨论其与表观遗传过程中“意图”和“参照性”的关系。最后，萨曼莎·弗罗斯特 (Samantha Frost) 提到了她目前关于“作为响应式自我转化的注意力”和“作为生活形式的生活方式”之间联系的项目。